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The courageous have come out to talk.
- Wednesday night. - Busking with words.
- As I Say! - As I Say!
(As I Say)
Today is a special day.
It's As I Say's year-end special.
We've asked our viewers,
"Among the buskers that came on our show,"
"who are the buskers that you want to see again?"
- Have we done that? - Yes.
We've asked our viewers to select the most impressive busker...
on our homepage.
I heard only 22 viewers have participated.
They told me that 12 of them were actually our staff.
That's how we have selected the Busking Avengers.
- Welcome! - Good to see you.
That's how we have selected the Busking Avengers.
- Welcome! - Good to see you.
- It feels amazing to see them again today. - Right.
They're all here.
Do-yeon, you know how people play Limbo Game at the end of the year.
Of course I do.
- They throw ohjaemi, too. - That's right.
- They play Chicken Fight Game, too. - When the gourd breaks,
a sign that says "A good harvest in 2017" drops.
- I was expecting something like that. - What?
Did you say "A good harvest in 2017"?
We have the Busking Avengers with us today.
So it has to be a celebration.
- It's somewhat embarrassing though. - Why?
It hasn't been that long since our show started.
But it feels like we're celebrating our 400th episode.
- I know, right? - Yes.
Our show first aired on September 21st.
I'm getting goosebumps.
It's a relatively new show.
- It's very new. - That's right.
All right. Let's begin our show.
He is a bestseller writer, Kim Dong-young, also known as the Fish Writer.
(The Fish Writer, Kim Dong-young)
(A courage to admit the things you don't know)
(Writer Kim Dong-young gave us a courageous message.)
He came on our show on the first episode. Long time no see.
It's December now. Aren't you cold?
You're wearing the same clothes as last time.
Yes, I'm wearing the same clothes. After the first episode aired,
the reaction I got was overwhelming.
So I thought I'd become really famous.
- Gosh. - I thought "Infinite Challenge" would invite me.
- Goodness. - Didn't they invite you?
If I don't wear these clothes, people don't recognize me.
- Oh no. - I'm wearing the same clothes today.
Otherwise people won't recognize me.
That's why I'm wearing these even though it's winter.
Are you going to wear these when you busk later? It's really cold.
This is the only way I can become famous.
Wow, he's ambitious.
What did people in your hometown say?
I've done 18 lectures just this month.
- Goodness. - Just this month?
- Yes. - Why did you talk about in the lecture?
Maybe it's cheating in a way.
You know the topic of my busking last time, right?
- Do you talk about the same thing? - They ask me to elaborate on the topic.
The message you gave was really good.
I thought the message Fish Writer was trying to deliver...
was very clear. I could understand the pain he had to go through.
Do you have any questions for him?
I don't have questions.
- Well... - You just felt his pain.
It was very touching.
This is how Sung-tae is.
What's the topic you will be talking about?
I don't have my opinions.
For example, when we meet friends, we'd often ask,
"What do you want to eat? What do you want to do?"
Then I'd tell them, "Whatever you want to do or eat."
Since I don't say my opinions,
I get treated like a person who is dependent and thoughtless.
So I'm going to talk about whether if it's really bad to not have your own opinions.
I'm exactly like that.
I always try to be considerate to others.
Some say to me, "Why don't you speak your own opinions?"
But I was being considerate.
- You two are quite similar. - Yes.
Then why don't you two busk together as a duo?
You guys are like Jung Gi-go and So-you.
I was thinking we're more like Seo Su-nam and Ha Chung-il.
I was thinking of No Sa-youn and Lee Moo-song.
- They're a great duo. - All right. We'll busk together today.
- That's great. - Like I said, I'm not very responsive when others talk.
It doesn't matter. I can do everything on my own.
All right.
Our next guest is a funny lady.
She's a dutiful daughter and a comedienne, Jang Do-yeon.
(A dutiful and funny daughter, Jang Do-yeon)
- She's a dutiful daughter. - To be honest, it was a bit embarrassing.
- Because it was unlike anything I've done before. - I see.
- It was your own story. - So it was really embarrassing to watch the show.
I was talking about my own story and started to cry.
Then I thought I don't look too bad when I'm crying.
I watched the show again.
- You did? - How many times did you watch it?
- It's embarrassing. - Be honest.
I've watched it 20 or 30 times.
- You were thinking, "I don't look too bad." - That's right.
If I bump into the audience around Ehwa Womans University,
I might say hello to them. I remember their faces.
From what I heard,
Do-yeon tries to emphasize this when she dates men.
- What is it? - She says she's a dutiful daughter.
- It's embarrassing. - There's a rumor going around.
She emphasizes she's a dutiful daughter.
I talk about the hardships my mom went through.
- Like this. - Do-yeon, you have a lot of charms.
What charms do you try to show when you meet a man you like?
If I try to show my charms, it normally doesn't work.
- A while ago, I went on a show with a fortune teller. - A fortune teller?
- What did he say? - He said...
I will meet an old man next spring.
That's the only hope I have.
I'm waiting for it to happen.
- There's one thing I'm curious about. - What is it?
Are married people really satisfied...
with their marriage?
You two are already married.
I'm really happy with my marriage.
I'm serious.
I can sense capitalism from your smile.
- I saw that. - What are you talking about?
I don't get to enjoy my freedom.
I never expected that I'd be restrained like this.
I put the TV volume on the lowest while watching an action movie.
But I was so excited.
The baby was sleeping,
and I usually don't have my own space.
Have you ever watched an action movie like that?
You know how guys can relieve their stress by watching action movies.
- What do you think, Jun-young? - Well,
I may look like this, but I often get lonely.
- So... - You look like you'd get lonely.
Jun-young.
If you get married, you don't get lonely, right?
I think marriage is...
basically a lonesome thing.
You feel lonely when you see your wife sleeping.
Let's say I dated Do-yeon when I was in my 20s.
I'd remember how she is now.
But sometimes my wife looks like a mess and feels exhausted...
because she's worn out from a hard day's work.
You can see a glimpse of her day from her heels.
Watching her sleep on the bed with her mouth open makes me feel lonely.
I thought, "This is life."
Out of 365 days, 360 days are not so great.
About 5 days are great, and those 5 days make you keep going.
So I think...
everyday life is tiring and difficult.
- It feels like we're on a prestigious show. - Yes.
I've talked enough already. Please bring out the limbo.
Let's throw ohjaemi first.
How about a Chicken Fight Game?
He's a righteous lawyer who specializes in retrials.
He's the most famous person here.
He's the best celebrity in Korea.
It's Park Jun-young.
- It's an honor. - Good to see you.
(He pretended he was famous from his first appearance.)
It's my first time seeing you.
I don't believe that.
Well,
did you know him, Byung-jae?
I've never seen him before.
He's the most famous person among us.
You all know that, right?
Since I came on the show last time,
there's been a lot of change for me.
What kind of change was it?
A lot of people started to recognize me.
I've carried out an analysis to find out about the reasons.
Yoo Byung-jae, who came on the show with me, talked about current affairs.
He was really popular, right?
I think I tagged along.
- So... - What's the standard of being popular for you?
Recently, I learned about the standard of being popular.
I realized why surveys are carried out according to regions and age groups.
- Why? - Well,
when I was busking in Gangnam last time,
people in their 20s or 30s hardly recognized me.
- At Gangnam Station... - That's what I felt.
Most of the retrial cases I've taken...
took place in Samnye and Iksan, North Jeolla Province.
When I'm in North Jeolla Province,
I can't even lift my head in makgeolli pubs.
- Goodness. - Why?
Because they recognize me.
- Because they recognize you? - They'd pour me a drink, and it becomes too much.
So I try to be careful.
- Gosh. - So,
I've decided to close the recognition gap that comes from...
age and regional differences.
Jun-young, but we couldn't...
remember your name.
So we referred you as the guy who got scolded by Hee-yeol.
(It suddenly started to rain during his busking.)
(He hurriedly finished his busking.)
(Is this the end?)
(He did another busking for the first time in the show's history.)
(I've experienced prejudices myself.)
(He took the Samnye Nara Mart Robbery Case.)
(Socially weak and disadvantaged people became the suspected culprits.)
("Poor kids with criminal record can always commit crimes again.")
(Deep-rooted prejudice of our society)
(Lawyer Park Jun-young fought against the prejudice.)
You've talked about the Samnye Nara Supermarket Robbery Case.
The true culprit even confessed to his crime.
- He wasn't punished. - He wasn't even punished.
As for that case, the statute of limitations expired in 2009.
Recently, the man who was suspected as the true culprit...
confessed to his crime, saying he's the one who killed the people.
I'm friendly with the criminal.
- You're friendly with the criminal? - Yes, I am.
He is not going to get punished.
- Because the statute of limitations expired? - Yes.
Everyone seems to think he was let out...
because the statute of limitation expired.
But it was really due to his conscience.
He confessed to the murder but didn't get penalized.
- He confessed? - Yes, he did back in 2000.
He was pretty happy when they let him go,
but he was tormented for the next decade or so.
When he slept at night,
he dreamt of being stuck in prison,
where even though he served his term, they still didn't let him go.
He also dreamt about being beaten at the prison.
He would constantly have these dreams.
How did he act towards the victim's family?
He would shake.
He was sitting next to me as I was driving him...
to their graves.
When we got there, he couldn't even go near the victim's family.
But the family came toward him first.
You'd think they wouldn't be able to forgive him, right?
They slapped him on the back and said, "Glad you came."
They told him, "Thank you for confessing."
- Do you know why they were able to do that? - Why?
In a case, there's always a victim,
and the victim's family.
But the people suspected of being perpetrators were innocent.
In this kind of situation, the victim's families...
hope for the falsely accused to be brought to light.
- So they could find out the real truth? - Precisely.
But the person who made that happen was none other than the real culprit.
That's why they can't help but be thankful to him.
That's how they were able to thank a criminal.
- Wow. - The real criminal was someone else.
But they made a fake criminal.
There were many public authorities that let the real criminal get away.
The police, prosecutor, judge,
even the attorney.
Even after the case was resolved, no one showed remorse for what they've done.
I would like to talk about the authorities that show no remorse.
- I see. - I ended up talking too long.
- No, not at all. - You look so cool when you talk like that.
I always look cool.
- If only he didn't just say that... - Yes.
- That one sentence just broke your cool image. - Yes.
- After that last recording, - Yes?
I realized that a man...
should take great care and thought into...
making his image.
Also,
after that last recording, it got really tough for me.
I didn't mean to do that talk just so I would get so popular.
He was the first busker to ever be scolded by the MC.
That was the first time Hee-yeol said something like that.
"Relax and do it however you want!"
"However you want! Clearly!"
"Trust in our editing skills and just say everything you want!"
It was the first time I ever saw him act like that.
(He felt very comfortable thanks to him.)
Actually, Jun-young is younger than me.
- You didn't have to be so surprised. - Awesome.
- He's a lot younger than me. - He is?
As you can see, I'm a little reckless and hairless.
In the past, I had a lot of girls follow me around.
He's a very reckless man.
- He's really charming. - Yes.
(We're looking forward to his busking.)
Last time, this person showed us...
a new perspective on why dating was hard.
It's Son A-ram.
(Writer, Son A-ram)
In a society where it's hard for women to date,
it'll also be hard for men to date as well.
(He talked about equality among genders in society.)
Instead of getting rid of the penalties,
wouldn't it be better to compensate them?
If you were to go to America and face discrimination because of your race,
instead of abolishing discrimination, you'd want to be compensated for that?
- What? - Wow.
(A writer with a sexy perspective, Son A-ram)
Last time, when my wife watched Son A-ram's busking,
- she said you were really amazing. - Women...
- really liked him. - Yes.
That's why I really wanted to say it was due to the power of editing.
You were there too, remember?
To be honest,
he wasn't that great live.
Do-yeon, you were there, right?
As someone who came out on the episode during his busking...
He actually went first.
He kept whining that there wasn't enough people in the audience.
(He kept whining.)
I felt really bad, thinking it might be because he went first.
But he came out really cool on TV, right?
On TV, he was so...
Not that you weren't always cool...
I can't help but admit she's right.
- What? - No,
we were just joking. He was really good.
Son A-ram was an upperclassman...
in the comic book club in my high school.
- You went to the same high school? - Yes.
- It has been nearly 16 years since I last saw him. - Wow, really?
We'd talk time to time. I felt it back then too,
but he doesn't really calculate the way he talks.
It's more like the words fills up...
and overflow so that he has to talk about it.
- It overflows? - Yes.
- Can you say it one more time? - Goodness.
It fills up and overflows?
- He's a man like a magma. - A magma?
Personally, I thought Son A-ram's busking...
was very memorable.
Both sides had great things to say about him...
even though both sides were also criticized by him.
I was able to empathize...
- and develop an interest. - Oh!
- What? - So I researched about him.
Actually, I was glad I went first when I saw her busking.
I don't think I would have been able to do it if she'd gone first.
All right. So, what will you be talking about in today's busking?
This is the first time I'm wearing something like this to a recording.
Today's talk has a lot to do with leggings,
- so I came here dressed like this. - I see.
Normally, she talks about social issues.
But today, she'll be talking about 2017's fashion trend.
- She's changed. - She's like a female version of Jung Yun-gi.
Yes, yes.
- What do you think about her leggings? - I like them.
- They're pretty nice. - Yes.
- They're very nice. - I'd like to hear the lawyer's opinion too.
My wife often wears them at home.
He spoke as a family man.
It looks warm and comfortable.
- Looks comfortable? - Yes.
(Smirking)
(Park Jun-young's deadly charms)
I see.
Of all the places to be born, I was born in the middle of Alaska.
It's so cold.
(He comforts everyone who were exhausted by life.)
(You were able to live through that.)
(These words comforted many.)
("It's all right. Let's run away for a little while.")
(Webtoon artist who created "Doctor Frost", Lee Jong-beom)
- How did people around you react? - People started making fun of me.
- Why? - They wanted to make a catch phrase out of it.
When the deadline was approaching, people would say to each other, "Let's run away."
When I said the manager called me, they said, "Run away."
They'd keep making fun of me like this.
It had a great impact but I can't really use...
I told my friends to run away when things got tough.
- That's... - I told them that.
- To your friends? - Yes.
They would respond, "Why?"
But I couldn't explain it.
I just couldn't...
Hey, why do I need to run away?
You were born in the South Pole.
You were, weren't you?
You were born there.
(Crying)
Run away. You were born in the desert.
You were lonely, weren't you?
- You had to talk like him. - I know.
They teased me like that.
I actually searched for the video of your talk.
It was so good.
Especially at the end where...
- he sat down. - Yes!
I was so touched...
- when he sat down. - You went to that high school girl.
"You had it tough, didn't you?"
Yes! And also...
let me tell about the other time.
I was moved when he said,
"You've made it."
That's it!
"You've made it!"
You did great making it this far.
(Smiling)
"You made it this far!"
And the smile!
- It was awesome. - He's a busking pro.
(Touched)
- Jong-beom. - Yes?
What are some of your concerns these days?
Since we always communicate through social media,
I think a lot of people are getting addicted to soda.
- Addicted to soda? - Well,
for things like "soda remarks" to get popular,
it means people were feeling like sweet potatoes.
Do you understand what he means by sweet potato?
Sweet potato and soda...
(Sure.)
Basically it's...
Sweet potato and soda?
When you eat sweet potato,
you feel so stuffy inside. But when someone says something refreshing,
it's like someone gave you soda. That's what that meant.
I knew that.
He got mad.
(Tearing up)
- So funny. - Okay, so?
On social media,
everyone loves that refreshing feeling.
Even for problems that require a bit of thought,
everyone just aims for...
a refreshing soda ending.
Therefore, I felt so many problems were overlooked.
They should look at what happened before that problem...
and specifically try to find out more about the problem.
But everything disappears after that one refreshing remark.
It's my first time seeing Lee Jong-beom here today.
- I feel we share very similar thoughts. - You do?
Yes. I also like refreshing remarks.
After all, I got popular because of Yoo Byung-jae.
So I really do like them.
But just going wild over the "refreshing remark",
people would criticize the opposite side...
without listening to their reasoning. It's not right to do that.
I have a different opinion.
The reason people are going wild over those remarks...
is because they never had the opportunity to express themselves.
That just shows how much our expressions were suppressed by society.
It might not be something that brings great changes,
but I think it could be used as a catalyst to...
show things that weren't able to be shown before.
I agree with what Kwak Jung-eun said.
For everyone to go wild over those "refreshing remarks"...
means that many people yearn for...
some sort of justice.
But I want to say...
- They're fighting. - They're fighting.
you should stay aware that...
these type of refreshing remarks...
can be made for the sake of someone else's gain.
I feel that our society has a tendency to do that.
During your first busking,
as a lawyer, you weren't fighting against biases, but you were acting...
on behalf of making humanity civilized.
At least, that's how it seemed to me.
- The effort to overcome biases... - I think that's really important.
- Yes. - Wow, did they just...
What was that? Did they plan this out?
Wow, when I heard them speaking about...
It was like a phrase from the public commercial.
Do you think people will hire us two for a public commercial?
I'm actually looking forward to these two's collaboration.
(We'll be looking forward to these two's commercial.)
And last but not least, this person is still living selfishly as ever.
A miracle man, Heo Sung-tae.
Yes!
(An actor from "Age of Shadows", Heo Sung-tae)
How have you been?
This program is more intense than "Age of Shadows".
There are only 1 or 2 people out of 10...
who come to me for "Age of Shadows".
I feel like the other eight will come to me for As I Say.
Do you keep in touch with Song Kang-ho?
He hasn't seen this program yet...
- but he heard a lot about this program. - What did he say?
"I heard you went out on Say Say Say."
- Say Say Say? - Say Say Say?
He was in "The Good, the Bad, the Weird".
Now he's saying "Say Say Say".
I still remember what he said last time.
"I was slapped by Song Kang-ho,"
"but I was still happy."
I was about to be slapped by Song Kang-ho.
I realized even if he were to slap me, I'd be still happy with this job.
Wow.
If there was a way to say I love myself...
If there was a method to show love for yourself,
I think it'd be okay for you to make a selfish choice.
(It's okay for you to make a selfish choice at least once.)
(Being honest about your dreams)
(His busking made a great impression on everyone.)
Dreams are kind of big and important.
Rather than dreams, let's talk about wishes.
Can you tell us your wish, Do-yeon?
I wish I could have a chance to meet that old man.
That man you heard of?
- Yes, that man. - The one that fortune teller told you about.
What about you, Jung-beom?
I hope my new story becomes something really good.
- New story? - Yes.
I thought of it five years ago.
But it ended up happening in Korea very recently.
- It did? - Yes, so I have to change the whole story.
The story was about how a shaman's son became a kingmaker.
- Are you serious? - It would have been great if I published it last year.
- Goodness. - I was really surprised after hearing what Jung-beom said.
It sounds very similar to my project as well.
- How long ago was it? - I've been preparing this for 2 to 3 years now.
My wish right now is to publish my story before he does.
Wow.
What about you, Jun-young?
I believe in the power of optimism.
- What do you mean? - I mean...
As you know, Sohn Suk-hee is the anchorman for "Newsroom".
I don't know when I'll make an appearance, but I will someday.
- For "Newsroom"? - Yes, for "Newsroom".
You know how the ratings for "Newsroom" is really high right now, right?
So I can't help but feel that my wish became harder to achieve.
- But I... - He's so cute.
But I'm going to change course. You do a music program, don't you?
I think I'll go make an appearance there.
- What? - Why?
- Why there? - You're not a singer.
You mean "Sketchbook"? Are you a good singer?
Singing? Well...
I should have prepared for my busking, but I ended up preparing more for singing.
You thought we would make you sing?
I'll let your wish come true.
No, this isn't the real thing.
No, we're practicing for the real thing.
It has become a cold winter.
So we managed to invite a very special singer.
A lawyer specializing in retrials, Park Jun-young.
(Lawyer specializing in retrials, Park Jun-young)
(The lights dim.)
- Wow. - Please focus on the lyrics.
- Okay. - Okay.
He's so funny.
Today feels like a festival.
- Let's meet again for New Year's Day. - Oh, it's starting.
("A Heart Trying to Forget" by Park Jun-young)
(It's a song sung by Park Jun-young to express...)
(his great desire to make an appearance on "Newsroom".)
Oh?
(Surprised)
Oh my gosh.
(The bubbles fly high in place of his unfulfilled dreams.)
Oh my gosh.
(The cameraman makes an appearance.)
(Adding on to Jun-young's charms,)
(Do-yeon dances for him.)
(The performance reaches its climax.)
(Jang Do-yeon, dancer)
Oh,
this is crazy.
(His eyes look toward fame.)
What are we going to do about those bubbles?
(I love you.)
Wow, that was great!
- He's good. - Nice!
- That was great. - He's pretty good at singing.
- Wow. - I was so nervous I couldn't show you my best.
What about casting him into Antenna?
We won't be casting him.
(Antenna will not be casting him.)
Anyway, this was the 13th meeting of As I Say.
We're going to have to leave soon to do our busking.
Because today's special, you have to be careful of your orders.
You could make something legendary if you're placed in the right order.
I think the first person up...
should be the one who created a big buzz on social media.
He's...
Son A-ram.
(The first one up, Son A-ram)
- Wow. - Will you be okay?
I think it'll be better to go first.
If you go at the end,
I won't be able to listen to the other's busking very well.
- Because you'll be too worried about your talk. - Yes.
That's why Park Jun-young will be going second.
(Second busker, Park Jun-young)
- Last time, - Yes?
I was so busy memorizing my own...
that I couldn't hear anything the other buskers were talking about.
Last time, when everyone was busking, he was...
(Distracted)
He was doing this.
(He was mumbling and busking by himself.)
(Please listen to what we have to say.)
(He can't hear anything.)
(It's helpful.)
That's when he started to scold him.
And then at last...
- Our third busker... - I'll do it.
- Oh? - You'll go?
I'll be worried if I'm placed too far back,
so I'll go next.
Oh, I see. Third one up will be Lee Jong-beom.
The fourth busker will be...
Fish Writer and Jang Do-yeon.
- I'm happy with this. - Nice.
And continuing on with this spirit,
Kwak Jung-eun will go next.
And Heo Sung-Tae will go last.
- Wow, he's so cool. - So it's set.
It's perfect.
Today's busking location...
is a place within the city where you can feel traces of the past.
It'll be held in Seochon Village, located in Mapo, Seoul.
That place is very pretty. It also has a lot of great restaurants.
- That's my hometown. - It is?
I was born in that village and spent all my childhood there.
Since today's a special day,
we won't be going through the door.
- Then how? - We're going to teleport.
- Teleport? - Stop it already.
That's impossible.
- How do we do it? - We stand and hold each other's hands.
- No, you're not... - Yes, we are.
We're going to jump. In 1, 2, 3.
(Jump all the way to Seochon Village!)
I like men.
Dating late in life,
I never felt so alive.
(Laughing)
(Song Kang-ho got angry.)
(Why did Song Kang-ho get angry?)
(That was a broadcasting accident.)
(Police, investigators, judges, congressmen, and the president...)
(don't feel remorse.)
(I'm going to call the Blue House directly to ask them.)
(My goodness.)
(He's really going to do that?)
(A shocking busking! It'll all start in a moment!)
(Jump!)
- Gosh... - He works so hard.
We all teleported to today's busking location.
- Yes. - Yes.
We're also right next to the Blue House.
If we go this way, you'll be at the Blue House.
But we're not going to be busking here.
- We'll... - We're not going to the Blue House, are we?
(It's not the Blue House, right?)
- Sorry, but I don't want to do it. - No.
Let's move to our secret location.
- Follow me. - Yes.
(They move to the real busking location.)
(Where will they go today?)
- Oh? - They're already all sitting there.
- Hello. - Wow.
(The citizens welcome them.)
(Ha Hee-yeol)
- Someone said "Ha Hee-yeol". - Are we on a field trip?
- What's going on? Hello. - Hello.
Let me introduce today's buskers.
- Yes! - Come here.
Today,
we received applications from those who want to see...
- the busking in person. - Right.
- Where did you come from? - Jeonju!
- Jeonju? - Really?
Oh!
- Do you know Lawyer Park Jun-young? - Do you know?
(They check if he's really famous in North Jeolla Province.)
Is he actually famous in Jeonju?
- Be honest. - Yes.
- She said yes. - Yes.
Jun-young has told us...
- that he is even more famous than Yu Jae-seok in Jeonju. - Of course.
- "Of course." - Her voice tone was a bit...
Is there anyone else who came from far away?
- Changwon. - Busan.
- Busan? - Did you come here to see the show?
- My goodness. - She must've been really lonely.
There's a spy over there.
Someone is hiding under the tree.
- Well... - Why are you hiding there?
Why is he hiding?
Watching him makes my face tingle.
- Someone else might be hiding somewhere. - Goodness.
Today's busking will be done...
- somewhat differently today. - That's right.
It'll be a relay busking.
There are three buskers...
for "Busking Avengers Part One".
They're Son A-ram, Park Jun-young and Lee Jong-beom.
These buskers will stay here and start their busking in relay.
The rest of us will go to the waiting room.
- Let's go. Please wait a little bit. - Thank you.
(The waiting room is right next to the place.)
(Excited)
(As I Say)
Hello, I'm Son A-ram.
(The relay busking starts.)
(Wow)
Yi Sun-sin, Gwanghaegun, Kim Gu, and Roh Moo-hyun.
The stories of these four politicians...
were made into movies, which attracted...
more than 10 million viewers recently.
("The Admiral" attracted 17.6 million viewers.)
("Masquerade" attracted 12.3 million viewers.)
("Assassination" attracted 12.7 million viewers.)
("The Attorney" attracted 11.3 million viewers.)
They have something else in common.
Does anybody know?
Think about it.
They had many enemies.
- Think about it. - Many enemies?
Right.
- They're all dead. - He's right.
All the important figures of Korean films...
that attracted more than 10 million viewers...
are all buried in the ground.
(All the important figures are buried in the ground.)
Is that a coincidence?
(Why are all politicians in the popular movies dead?)
I will tell you a secret. I'm a writer.
Many writers, especially Korean writers...
don't like people who are living today.
They'd prefer people who died.
The longer their deaths have been, the better.
(What's the reason?)
People who died...
don't get upset.
People who died...
- don't sue the writers. - He's right.
That's why many writers write about...
the Joseon Dynasty,
the Goryeo Dynasty, and the Silla Dynasty.
They live in Korea. You also live in Korea,
but you'd be more familiar with the stories from the past.
As a result, we know a lot more about the politicians from the past...
than we know about the politicians of our generation.
Do you know what Crown Prince Sado did for a week before he died?
- He was locked up in a rice chest. - Yes.
He was locked up in a rice chest.
But we don't know much about...
what our president and politicians have done.
Nowadays, the writers who want to write about stories of people...
are waiting for their funerals.
It's true.
Only then they won't get into trouble.
- But... - Right.
But recently,
a story with real names and real living people came out.
It's a brave piece of art.
- What is it? - It's...
(What is it?)
It's...
the blacklist of artists.
(My gosh.)
There are over 9,000 characters...
in this masterpiece.
- Over 9,000 characters. - Right.
- He's right. - Wow.
Do you have any idea how big the number 9,000 is?
There are about 600 characters in "Toji" written by Pak Kyong-ni.
There are about 1,300 characters in "Records of the Three Kingdoms".
How many people do you think will fit...
into the Cheonggye Plaza?
(How many?)
About 9,000 according to police estimates.
(About 9,000 according to police estimates)
Do you know what kind of people are on the blacklist?
Park Chan-wook, Song Kang-ho,
Jung Woo-sung, Kim Hye-soo,
and Ha Ji-won. Hyun Bin is not on the list.
If I work at a film company,
I'd love to cast...
the people on the blacklist.
Director Park, Chan-wook.
The main male characters, Jung Woo-sung and Song Kang-ho.
The main female characters, Kim Hye-soo and Ha Ji-won.
It's a blockbuster, isn't it?
- I'd love to watch it. - It's a blockbuster.
If they make the movie,
they will attract at least a million viewers even if it flops.
It's about 260,000 viewers based on the police estimates.
I think he was influenced by Yoo Byung-jae's stand-up comedy.
But think about it.
A blacklist is made...
to stop people from watching their artwork.
To decided whether to add an artist on the blacklist,
you have to see the artwork of the artist first.
You can't make a blacklist based on physiognomy, right?
(You can't make a blacklist based on physiognomy.)
Then the person who made the blacklist... I don't know who that person is.
But we can assume that person has watched all the artworks of 9,000 people.
That makes sense.
There are 9,000 people.
Even if you read 10 novels,
watch 10 movies or plays,
and look at 10 paintings every day,
it will take at least 3 years to see 9,000 artworks.
Many artists have been wondering.
Who are the people...
who have seen all the artworks and made the blacklist?
We don't have the answer. I'm still very curious.
So today,
I'm going to call the Blue House and ask them.
I'm serious.
Really?
- Really? - Now?
Switch his phone to airplane mode.
(Somebody switch his phone to airplane mode.)
I'm serious.
(Rummaging)
I'm really going to call the Blue House. I'm not kidding.
You can find their number on the website.
(The number is shown on their website.)
(Pressing buttons)
(The Blue House)
- Is he really calling them? - Goodness.
(Did he...)
(really call them?)
(How will the Blue House answer?)
The line is busy at the moment.
Please call again later.
- Please call again later. - Some other people must've called them earlier.
(Disappointed)
Please call again later.
I tried to call them for the past two months.
They keep saying "Please call again later."
(They've been saying the same thing.)
We can't ask why they did that.
I think making a blacklist to stop people from watching artworks...
is not an effective method.
More effective method would be making a recommendation list.
(What?)
Books recommended by the Ministry of National Defense...
are the books that military men don't read.
I was able to become a writer because...
I didn't read the books recommended to teenagers when I was young.
It's true.
Then why would they make a blacklist,
which is inefficient and uncertain?
Actually, a blacklist is most effective...
when it remains unrevealed.
It's when people don't know who is on the blacklist...
but know that it does exist.
For the past few years, so many artists around me...
have heard the rumor that a blacklist exists.
When their artworks couldn't be published or win awards,
they thought it was because of the blacklist.
So what did the artists do?
They started to write stories about people who died.
They examined their own work.
So the artists...
The funny thing is...
the blacklist was revealed, right?
When they checked the blacklist, they couldn't find their names.
(Artists who censored themselves were not on the blacklist.)
A philosopher called Zizek said this.
"In a totalitarian society, you don't need to punish people."
You don't need to punish anyone in a society where no one expresses...
his or her opinions.
Artists in that society...
try to avoid using proper nouns...
and turn away from the things happening in the society.
They don't write about real people.
We can't write about meaningful things.
The cases and the events which can transform our society...
can't be used in our works of art.
Do you really want those kind of artworks?
No one wants those kinds of artworks.
That's why you guys...
went out this winter, regardless of the cold,
to the plaza with candles...
to protect many things,
including the worth of art.
(The worth of art was included.)
The only reason why...
I was able to come here and speak to you is due to that.
Before, this would have been a broadcasting accident.
They would have cut off my air time.
(They would have cut him off his air time.)
But right now, instead of being cut off, we're able to push back against...
those authorities that allowed this.
(The authorities can't censor our expressions.)
Actually, most artists...
No, all artist...
were able to receive a Christmas gift from all of you.
(A Christmas gift from the citizens)
I, in their stead,
came here to thank everyone.
Thank you for protecting us all.
And please continue protecting us.
Thank you.
("The Reason Why Writers Fail")
(Wow)
(A-ram is so cool.)
He's so cool.
A-ram changes into a different person when he's busking.
He's not the person who was squeezing the ball back here.
Yes.
Thank you for coming back out.
I was really moved when I heard your talk during your first busking.
Can I ask what little things you're doing currently...
to fight for gender equality?
Actually, there's a lot you can do to get started.
I wouldn't say they were all for the sake of gender equality, per Se.
But cooking...
Cooking something for yourself...
is a habit.
If you don't have that kind of habit,
you won't be able to cook, even when you get a wife.
It's because habits are hard to fix.
I can't say I'm a good cook,
but it's still edible.
That could be one method...
to stand up for gender equality.
Cooking for yourself.
Anyone else?
(Jong-beom raises his hand.)
Yes, Lee Jong-beom?
I really admire and like your works.
I especially liked "Minority Opinion".
That's Jong-beom's voice.
I'm really curious to know...
about your next work and when it'll be available.
I can't tell that to a competitor.
(He keeps his competitors in check.)
- They're... - They're fighting.
They're fighting about the dates.
- Well... - That guy...
is writing a very similar story to what I'm writing about.
So, that's your next work?
I was planning to change my story.
I'm going to ask you the same question when it's your turn up here.
(I will ask you a question.)
He's so mean.
(I love you.)
If there are no further questions,
the lawyer specializing in retrials,
Park Jun-young will come out next.
He will continue our busking. Thank you for listening.
(He finished his busking perfectly by introducing the next speaker.)
He's pretty good at this.
He's going to keep this going like a relay race.
It's like passing the baton.
(It's a new nonstop relay busking method.)
This really feels like a party.
This place...
It's really pretty and has a great atmosphere.
The way Son A-ram's dressed...
makes it look like we're in Paris.
No, we're definitely in Korea.
A Korean arrived.
(He definitely looks Korean.)
Hello, I'm Lawyer Park Jun-young.
(Park Jun-young's busking starts.)
I'm known as a lawyer specializing in retrials.
I'm sure you heard of the Iksan Taxi Driver Murder Case.
and the Samnye Nara Mart Robbery Case.
I was the attorney in both those cases.
I want to talk about what I felt while I was on those cases.
I'll be talking about the authorities that show no remorse.
Back in April 2015, an American news station...
broadcast a story about a black man,
who was released after being forced to serve time for 31 years...
and the prosecutor who helped him.
That prosecutor was...
the same man who put that man in jail.
So why did this man...
go see the man he put in jail?
This black man, Glenn Ford, was convicted of murder...
and was supposed to receive the death penalty.
After 31 years, it was revealed that there was the true criminal.
He was stuck in there for 31 years?
Sure, Glenn Ford was finally free from his false charges.
But after spending 31 years in prison,
he was diagnosed with third stage lung cancer.
He didn't have long to live.
The prosecutor behind Ford's case was Stroud.
It might be harsh to say it like this,
but he created him into a fake murderer.
He did something really horrible.
- I can't even imagine how he must have felt. - He was in jail for 31 years.
- His whole life has become so meaningless. - Yes.
He went to Ford, held his hand together, and bowed his head.
He hoped he would be able to understand how sorry he felt for him.
It was a burden he had to carry all the way to his grave.
Do you think Ford was able to forgive Stroud?
- I wouldn't be able to. - He told him,
"Nearly 31 years of my life has been sacrificed."
"I only have 6 to 8 months to live."
"I'm sorry, but I just can't forgive you."
It's only natural he couldn't.
Ford actually passed away on June 29th, 2015.
So...
what kind of criticisms...
did Prosecutor Stroud have to go through after that?
Ironically, unlike the unfortunate Glenn Ford,
the public grew more sympathetic of Prosecutor Stroud.
They judged his courage to be true.
Stroud goes on to contribute to the local newspaper...
by writing out his wrongdoings and reflection.
"I was arrogant, narcissistic and very full of myself."
"I was not as interested in justice as I was in winning."
"I apologize to Glenn Ford for all the misery..."
"I have caused him and his family."
Eventually, he goes on to apologize to his family.
He wasn't able to stick to his duties.
He goes on to apologize to the court as well.
Because of Stroud apologizing and feeling remorse for his wrongdoings,
do you believe the trust in justice...
or the law in the US broke down?
No, of course not.
The American citizens were able to trust in their legal system more so...
after Stroud came out and confessed his crimes.
Well, that's America, but what about Korea?
Do you think we're completely free from these kinds of cases?
On February 6th, 1999,
in Samnye Mart in the North Jeolla Province,
three robbers broke in.
They threatened the sleeping owners...
and stole their money and possessions.
They went to the next room where the grandmother was sleeping.
They wrapped duct tape over her mouth.
They looked around for things to steal when the grandmother didn't move anymore.
One of the three robbers...
attempted CPR. They also gave her water.
But it was too late.
She already died from suffocation.
(The grandmother died from suffocation.)
Back then, forensic science wasn't as good as it is now.
So the case came to a standstill.
Eventually, they arrested three juvenile delinquents...
because they had past charges. One of them was handicapped.
The police beat them until they confessed their crimes.
Eventually, they confessed they killed someone.
They confessed so they'd stop hitting them.
After the police finished investigating, the case was transferred to the prosecutor.
What do you think the prosecutor did?
He did something worse.
"If you deny it, you'll receive the death penalty or be imprisoned for life."
Afraid, the three continued to keep up with their false confessions.
They probably told them if they confess, they'll be let go faster.
They probably said if they denied it, they'd have to face the death penalty.
(They threatened the weak victims.)
All that's left was the trial.
During the trial, they allowed an attorney.
Do you think their attorney helped them?
When they told him they were innocent, he said,
"You're making this difficult."
"If you keep doing this, you'll get a heavier sentence."
- Eventually, they made a false confession. - Even the attorney?
What about the judge?
The trial was carried out hastily and without another thought.
The three kids...
were sentenced to 3 to 6 years of prison.
This was carried out through all three stages.
(Justice wasn't brought to light.)
But,
as the three were serving their sentence,
a report was made to Busan Prosecutor's Office, saying there are true culprits.
Those suspects testified about the location...
and everything they stole from that mart.
But, the case is taken to Jeonju Prosecutor's Office for some reason.
- Why? - The prosecutors have changed.
But that prosecutor deemed them to be innocent.
That prosecutor...
is the very prosecutor who investigated the original case.
This case which could have overturned the whole case...
was put into the hands of that prosecutor.
The prosecutor didn't have the courage to do that.
He let the real criminals go...
and left the falsely charged murderers in prison.
He did something really horrible.
He said something really strange as he let the real criminals go.
- What did he say? - "One doesn't necessarily have to be jailed to be punished."
- What? - That's how the court cleared the suspects of suspicion.
However,
truth never dies that easily.
When the old woman showed symptoms,
one of them gave her water and tried CPR.
That person showed up after 15 years.
(He confessed his crime in 15 years.)
He admitted that he was the real culprit.
He appeared in the court and testified.
He visited the bereaved family and victims and apologized his wrong deeds.
He bowed in front of the grave of the deceased woman.
(The criminal even visited the woman's grave.)
They were found not guilty in late October this year.
As the prosecutor didn't appeal, the court's verdict of not guilty was confirmed.
But some people who witnessed this would have to go through a lot.
They are the police officers, prosecutor, judge, and public defender.
(Those responsible for wrong investigation)
But even now, none of them is regretting nor has apologized.
(Feeling bad)
But this isn't the only case where wrong people were arrested and punished.
Same goes with the murder of a taxi driver in Iksan.
A taxi driver was found murdered on August 10th, 2000 at Yakchon Ogeri in Iksan.
A 15-year-old boy was arrested as a culprit of the case and served in the jail...
for 10 years.
But later, someone provided information about the real culprit of the case.
The person who was spotted as the culprit...
and his friend who had hidden him confessed.
However, the same thing happened again.
Since the person they arrested was already serving his sentence,
they just let go the real culprit who had confessed to murder.
My goodness.
Then they quietly dropped the charges.
However, the person was found not guilty on November 17th this year.
The prosecutor didn't appeal to a higher court.
But as to the case in Iksan,
one police officer killed himself.
I feel so sorry for him.
I called him as a witness during the trial process.
I asked him if there were any abuse during investigating him...
including torture, threatening, or coercive interrogation.
Not so long after he testified about the truth, he committed suicide.
I was truly shocked.
In those two cases, there were public officers...
who did wrong but they never reflected on their wrong deeds.
Do you know what they have become now?
One became a lawmaker.
Oh dear.
One of them even served as a president of a court.
Other person used to be a lawyer of the largest law firm in Korea.
Another person is a chief prosecuting attorney.
There's a person who became a high official of the Police.
None of them...
were punished and they are so well-off.
Isn't there a world of difference between the US and Korea?
That's what people with power do.
They have too many things to protect.
- They ruined his life. - To them, power was more important than someone's life.
I think that's right.
- True. - Seeing those two cases...
reminded me of a poem, "Spring in Mangwol-dong"...
in "Bicycle Tour" written by Kim Hoon.
It features a case of Lee Se-young.
During the May 18th Gwangju Democratic Movement, Se-young...
was shot by a soldier in the provincial government building.
The bullet penetrated his backbone and he had to walk on crutches since then.
But do you know why he was among the people...
in the protest on May 18th?
He went to meet his friends on the street,
when he saw the troops.
He thought the airborne troops were really cool...
when suddenly they started hitting him.
How outrageous is that?
That's why he joined the protest...
and fought in front of provincial government building.
That's how he was shot by a soldier and forced into a life of being a handicap.
(Lee Se-young was paralyzed.)
His children must have wondered...
about how he got hurt.
And do you know what Se-young said?
He just told them he got hurt long ago.
He didn't tell them anything about the soldier shooting him. Why?
He didn't want his children to hate the army...
and the country.
This is how the victims feel.
Do you really think Lee Se-young didn't think about forgiveness and making up?
He said,
"I'm always ready to hug and cry out at..."
"whoever's willing to come ask for forgiveness."
Even then,
not one man came forward to ask him for forgiveness...
or make up with him.
(The authorities didn't ask for forgiveness.)
Basically, when the real murderer...
went to the victim's families...
and to the people who went to prison instead of him,
to ask for forgiveness, do you know how they responded?
They took his hand.
They thanked him for finally coming forward to confess to the crime.
They patted him on the back.
In both the Iksan and Samnye cases,
the authorities who have done wrong...
are currently part of the congress, working as an attorney in a prestigious firm,
and even working as a chief judge. If these people would just...
come out asking for forgiveness...
They forgave the real criminal. I'm sure they'll be able to forgive them too.
In our society, it would be great if we could...
see someone like that American prosecutor, Marty Stroud.
But, even though we keep requesting this from them,
they are still keeping silent.
The reason I'm busking today...
Well, the ratings for As I Say has gone up, haven't they?
This show is really popular and known far and wide all over the country.
I really hope they'll see this.
(I hope they'll be able to see this.)
I'd also like to make a promise.
I'm not a good fighter.
You can tell I have a flabby body.
But I have confidence in my perseverance.
It's very simple.
I hope you'll keep your interest on these cases.
Justice isn't anything special.
Justice is all about solving one case at a time.
Thank you.
(A point about the authorities not apologizing for their wrongdoings)
- Wow. - Wow.
He's so cool.
(Heart attack)
Respect.
Jun-young is pretty cool.
Actually, we're very familiar about your stories.
I actually wrote a piece called "Minority Opinion".
That book is all about the wrongdoings of authority figures...
and the late blooming attorney who goes to fight against them.
It's a story about a poor attorney.
But I feel like you're that attorney in my story.
Can you tell us how...
the Samnye incident is proceeding currently?
The Samnye case got a verdict of not guilty.
But we're trying to bring the country to account.
We're still preparing and going through a lot of procedures at the moment.
But it'll start really soon.
And this time, because they still haven't admitted...
their wrongdoings for the cases,
we're going to go for...
the people who should be held liable...
and file a lawsuit against them specifically.
Please watch over us...
and please share the video at YouTube.
(He's always going on about sharing.)
Before, during your opening,
I said I didn't know about you,
but that was just a joke.
I actually really respect you.
- But your expression looked a little rigid when you... - No.
No, that's not true.
- He's teasing her. - He is.
Also you said you came here...
so that we couldn't forget about the incidents.
What can we do specifically...
to make the people responsible apologize?
The Sewol ferry incident...
was an incident where many young students lost their lives.
You don't really need to do much.
All you have to do is never forget and keep your interest alive...
for it to be resolved in a just way.
I feel like there should be some sort of punishment system...
for those authority figures that have done those wrongs.
Does Korea have something like that?
Do you think those people up there...
should be punished too?
In Germany, a war criminal is still being punished to this day.
That war criminal is close to 90 years old now,
but the law still calls him to court.
In our country,
the statute of limitations is so short that...
there's a limit in asking for them to take responsibilities for the damages.
Through this case,
I want to see the authorities ask for forgiveness.
I want them to take full responsibility...
of violating human rights.
To make them take responsibility,
we need to make some kind of national authority.
If there are a lot of people who agree, it can be made.
If we could have just a little percent of the money they sent to Choi Soon-sil,
- we can use it to do so many good things. - Of course.
In the Samnye case, the real criminal confessed.
That's why you were able to be certain of...
your defendants' innocence, and that's why you defended them.
But before that, how did you know...
- they were innocent? - Oh, nice one.
He's pretty sharp.
I'm not a shaman,
but I've seen a lot of people.
When you meet and speak with many people,
- you can feel certain things from people. - He's right.
It's the power of the truth.
I also placed great importance on the length of time...
they kept insisting on their innocence.
It's really not easy...
for a real criminal to keep insisting he's innocent for over a decade.
I took that into account.
Not only that, but I also look at their records.
I look and think again and again.
(He decides carefully.)
Once a junior high school student asked his teacher this question.
"Teacher, right now,"
"everyone's going out to the candle protest."
"But what's going to change?"
There was some progress...
when we got them to impeach the president.
But in many other protests,
they weren't able to get results...
and ended up falling apart.
The teacher responded,
"Back in the Joseon Dynasty,"
"that horrible caste system was abolished."
How do you think the student responded?
"Teacher, that took several hundred years."
"We'd be all long dead before anything happens."
But I want to emphasize...
that a society that apologizes and learns to be more tolerant won't happen in a day.
The start is the most important.
It's all about how we keep progressing from that starting point.
We have someone from the "Age of Shadows" today.
What was that famous line in that movie?
"Regardless of failures, we must continue forward."
"We have to keep continuing forward."
That was Lee Byung-hun's line.
You were the character that betrayed the country.
- That's right. - How dare you?
(Smiling)
Just because you do an independence movement, you think we'll get independence?
We did get it.
You'll have to think of it as a process. There's no shortcut.
Let's try to solve this, one case at a time.
I'm sure we'll be able to find some meaning in that process.
(The process will surely lead to change.)
That's all I have today. The next busker...
is the webtoon artist, Lee Jong-beom. Please welcome him.
- Wow. - Everyone's so good at this.
- Wow. - That was great.
(Jong-beom appears!)
- I'm looking forward to it. - He's a great speaker.
I'm looking forward to another catch phrase today.
Hello, everyone.
I was able to get on the blacklist. I'm Lee Jong-beom.
(His busking starts!)
I was able to get on the blacklist. I'm Lee Jong-beom.
(His busking starts!)
The two buskers who went in front of me...
have talked about very important issues...
we all should think about.
I think I'll be sticking to something more personal.
I'm a comic artist.
When I think of the story,
I always look for and research about what...
people would like to hear about.
As the end of the year approaches,
everybody is pretty much interested in the same things.
It's always about year-end parties or being depressed.
Another term that is commonly heard during this time is the word "slump".
(And slump)
I would like to talk about that term today.
(What kind of talk will Lee Jong-beom have about slump?)
(To overcome the year-end slump,)
(just remember three things!)
(That's...)
(Emotional explosion)
(Song Kang-ho yelled out in anger.)
(Song Kang-ho got angry.)
(The yakuza loved it.)
(What made the yakuza smile at her?)
(Awesome!)
(Society that forces an expiration date on the people)
(A world without courage to speak out)
(With words of sincerity,)
(he sympathizes with a citizen.)
(The last busking event of the year!)
(As I Say)
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